[求助]AC的米兰实验室究竟作用有多大？（请关注5，6楼）

有气无力

<P>在新闻里面看到这样一句话：
克雷斯波，这个在国际米兰染了一身伤病的阿根廷人在切尔西伤势进一步加重，而通过米兰实验室重获新生…………
不禁又勾起我一直疑问的一个问题：AC的米兰实验室真的就那么nb？inter的医疗条件就那么差吗？…………库铂时期是媒体对我们队医置疑最多的时候；现在虽然淡了很多，说这个的少了－－但近一个阶段我们的伤员又多起来了
那么？我们的队医和医疗环境究竟怎样？和AC实验室有多大差距？我们需要改进吗？请了解的朋友提供一些信息！</P>
<P>（尘心：帮你全改成AC了……主贴至少要这样……谢谢理解……）</P>

蓝黑之鸟

<P>当然有差距。每项运动都与队医有很多联系的。营养啊什么的还有体能恢复什么的都对比赛起很大作用的</P>

大葫芦神

砖头还不够多？达人快出来告诉我们答案阿

dqx4823246

说句实在话，我们球队在这方面与对手的差距很远！

一把菜刀

<P>我们的队医干什么吃的</P><P>看看科科还有雷克巴、、、、</P><P>想到就郁闷</P>

shmily80

<P>&lt;神奇的米兰实验室&gt; - 队医专访
(这是DM上米兰球迷ELCHILLUM提供/翻译的文章，整个帖子里既有原文的概译也穿插着ELCHILLUM的评论，所以行文方面会有点乱。)

Yo guys ... now that i find a few extra more mins of freedom, i want to
start a relevating topic ...

Yesterday a magazine in Belgium came out ... and every week there is one
football thingy in it ... As next week it's Milan-Bruges, the magazine HUMO
had an interview with Doctor Meersseman, Belgian doctor that is already
in Milanello for a long time.

He came to Milanello some decades ago, becuz he was the chiropracticor of
some famous people ... Also Berlusconi went to him and he was so impressed,
that he offered him a job at AC Milan.!!

Well, to be honest, this interview AMAZED me that i would like to share
it with you guys!
昨天出版的比利时杂志HUMO， - 该杂志每期都有一篇关于足球的文章-，因为下周
BRUGES对阵米兰的缘故，杂志采访了主持米兰实验室的比利时籍的Meersseman医生；
他在多年前来到米兰内洛任职，曾为不少名人作过肌肉和颈椎方面疾病的治疗，其
中包括贝总，因为效果如此之好，贝总请他来米兰工作！

(译者注：Chiropractic Physician是专门治疗肌肉和身体功能方面的专家， 特别
是对颈椎和神经系统方面的诊治。)

It's majorly about Milan Lab. A few years ago he insisted for this idea,
but the board found 3 million of $ too much for a 'toy' for the doctor!
It all started with the signing of Redondo for 25 million of bucks ... Also
his wage was around that kind of money. So in the end he went to the board
and said: Redondo costed Milan 50 million bucks while we could have prevented
his injury for the amount of 3 million dollars! All of a sudden the board
was interested

采访大部分内容是关于米兰实验室。几年前，Meersseman医生提出这个想法，但是
董事会觉得对於一个医生“奇思异想的项目”，$3百万的投资要求有点太高了。(不
过)，一切始于化了25百万签下REDONDO。。。加上他的工资大概也有25百万左右(译
者注：应该是包括工资，收入税，保险等等)；事情的最后是，Meersseman医生面见
董事会，直陈买REDONDO花了俱乐部50百万，而本我们本可以用3百万就能阻止他的
受伤！一瞬间，董事会对(米兰实验室)感起兴趣。

---&gt; Redondo in his first runs at Milanello had a soar muscle in his leg
(same leg as his later injury) ... 3 days after he was alright. But a few
days later he twisted his knee. Meersseman was convinced that this injury
was the cause of his injury a week before.
REDONDO第一次在米兰内洛跑步时，感觉到腿疼，(后来就是这条腿受伤的。)。。。
三天后，腿好了，但是没几天，他扭了膝盖，Meersseman医生确信他的膝伤是导致
一个星期前腿痛的罪魁祸首。

---&gt; So, therefore Milan Lab was born
米兰实验室因此诞生。

---&gt; How does milan Lab work?

Hmmm interesting question, but a very complex answer!

They keep information about players, hundreds of information and put them
in a neutral network that finds links. If nesta peaks every time when he
ate 2 times a week fish, the computer finds that link automatically. Every
player has to undergo tests every two weeks, between 60 and 120 mins. Every
home game is registered with 8 cameras. Every player will be scouted and
analyzed. They know exactly how many sprints, km's etc every player did
on the field! Also the daily input of information on the training, will be
done by the medical and the technical staff! what's the temperature of the
field, what kind of studs have the players, etc ...

那么，米兰实验室是如何工作得呢？有趣的问题，复杂的答案。

他们把有关运动员的大量数据保存起来，然后交由中央系统，由其寻找它们之间的
关联。如果NESTA每星期吃两次鱼，体能就能两次达到高潮，计算机能自动找出这两
者间的关联。每两星期每个球员都要进行一次检验，时间为60 - 120分钟。每次主
场比赛，(场地周围)都会有8部摄像机镜头，记录每个运动员的运动以便事后分析。
由此，队医可以了解球员在场上有多少次(短距离)冲刺，跑了多少公里数等等。平
日的训练数据亦由医生和技术人员监控，譬如，场地的温度，运动员穿的是何种鞋
钉，如此等等。

There are 3 kind of tests:

- structural-functional
- biochemic - biofysic (译者注：应该是biophysics)
- emotional - psychologic

米兰实验室的检测共有三中种：

- 身体结构和功能方面的检测
- 生化和生理机能方面的检测
- 情感和心里方面的检测

--&gt; the emotional psychologic is the most easy actually to understand! Do
they suffer from stress, do they have enough self confidence
情感和心里方面的检测是最为容易理解的！(主要是看)球员是否深受压力困扰，是
否有足够的自信心等。

--&gt; Biochemic and biofysic tests are related to . Who must go on a diet,
which extravitamins or minerals must be added and so on! They also test
certain things in the players's blood.
生化和生理机能方面的检测是相连的：决定谁该进行饮食方面的控制，应该添加哪
种维他命或矿物质，如此等等。队医还对运动员的血样里的某种些东西进行检测。


--&gt; Structural - functional is the test of the human body! How good is their
condition, how do they perform on the field. They analyze the back, their
attitude, the way they walk, and so on! Also they analyze how they chew!
Persons that have a good chewing have better muscles in the neck, but also
a neurologic ballance in their body! If meersseman has to appoint one doctor,
it would be a dentist! An example: Seedorf had a muscular problem in his
leg, dunno how it's called ... the place next to your testicels ... Meersseman
went with seedorf to the dentist, he pulled a tooth, and all of a sudden
the pain disappeared ...

身体结构和功能方面的检测主要看人的身体功能。运动员的身体状况如何，场上的
场上表现如何。实验室对运动员的背部/比赛中的态度/走路的样子等进行分析，甚
至对他们的嚼嚼方式进行分析！如果，Meersseman医生能任命一位医生，那一定是
为牙医！例证：SEEDORF的腿部和小肠相连的某个部位的肌肉有问题，eersseman医
生带SEEDORF去看牙医，牙医给黑小西拔了一颗牙，突然他的肌肉痛问题就消失了。。。


He also says that in the beginning the milan players were very sceptical
of Milan Lab ... but after a while players went to milan lab every week
to test becuz they wanted to know what their problem was, or why it was
they were in such a great condition!

Meersseman医生还提到刚开始时，队员们对米兰实验室多持疑问，但是过了些日子，
球员(自觉？)每个星期来米兰实验室检测，因为他们想知道自己的问题所在，或者
想了解为什么自己的状态如此之好。Meersseman医生

Also the players can look into their performance archieves! Every month
a result will be hang in the dressing room ... So the concurrence will be
motivated to do better tests a month later!

球员自己可以看自己的身体状况表现档案。每个月，他们的状态表都会贴在更衣室
里。

---&gt; In vertical jump serginoh was the best last year!
---&gt;在纵向跳里，去年是老塞最好！

---&gt; the five first meter sprint, dida was the best!
----&gt;在5米短距离冲刺方面，DIDA最好！

---&gt; overall MALDINI was the best!
---&gt;综合方面，马队最棒！

That last thing is really remarkable he says, becuz this doctor is convinced
that with Milan Lab, careers could be extended! Maldini, in condition of
his life! Billy, again with milan and pretty secure despite his age! Cafu
and pancaro ... also performing well!
Meersseman医生认为最令人叫绝的是，米兰实验室可以延长运动生命。马队处在他
运动生涯里身体最佳状态；忽略不计他的年龄，BILLY仍会十拿九稳留在米兰，CAFU和
PANCARO都处于良好状态。

He says, now we can sign players that are practically over their top, but
when they come at milan, we can reach their top again ... this way those
players dont cost a lot of money! Also for young players it's interesting
... becuz this way they can see if a young player is a great tallent or
not ... So milan could not pay much money, for youngsters and older players
...

Meersseman医生说，俱乐部可以毫无问题地签订那些已过运动高峰期的运动员，在
他们来到米兰，米兰实验室的医生可以帮助他们恢复到顶峰状态。。。这样的话，
俱乐部不用花很多钱买下这些球员。而且，对於年青的球员，可以检测他是否具有
真正的天赋。。。这样，无论(购买)新老球员，俱乐部可以节省支出。。。</P><DIV hidden; WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word"> </DIV>

shmily80

<P>At this moment, he is willing to convince lieven maesschalck, a famous belgian
doctor that worked with many athletes, which careers were almost over! He's
really an amzing doctor: His methods are really special! when somebody comes
to him, that person will cry untill his revalidation is over ... he hurts
his athletes so much that they will cry ... but this way he can cure them
earlier than expected ... so in stead of 5 months of revalidation, only
3 ... but the effort of the athlete will be harder, much harder
(此处略去不译，主要是Meersseman医生讲他力邀另一位非常著名的治理运动伤病的
比利时医生加盟。)</P><P>Okay, back to milan lab </P><P>The interviewer asked meersseman ... so noone can cheat the fysical tests
... but they can cheat about the mental tests...The doctor says ... absolutely
not </P><P>采访人问Meersseman医生，那么没人可以在生理检测方面作手脚，那么在心里方面
怕不难作欺骗吧。。。Meersseman医生答复，那是绝对不可能的。</P><P>---&gt; why's that ... every player will have to answer a list of questions,
attached with a lying detector ... they do not ask things about their sex
life etc or private things ... but if a player has problems with his wife,
they will know ... (not the reason but just the fact)</P><P>每个球员要求回答一系列的问题，有测谎仪检测，不会问球员诸如性生活等私生活
问题。。。不过，如果球员和太太有问题，队医会发现，(当然)只是当前实况而非
缘由。</P><P>---&gt; these tests are so important, that when meersseman and bruno de michelis
wont give any player free for a game, when a player is not mentally all
right! Last season ancelotti was not that happy with this idea ... he was
angry and wanted to put players on the field that were mentally not all
right ... He said, i can see in training that this player is in top condition,
but during the game, all failed!!!!! once very 10 games he tried to put
a player on the field that wasnt supposed to be released by the doctors,
and every time it was actually a disaster </P><P>这些检测结果如此重要，Meersseman和Bruno de Michelis医生如果发觉某个队员的
心里状况不佳，他们绝对不会对其上场开放行灯，对此，安切上个赛季时有不满：
他很愤怒，想把(队医认为)心里状态不佳的球员派上场，他的理由是他在训练中看
到这个球球表现出最佳状态，(如此被安切派上场的球员)无一不是场上表现最差的
球员。没10场里有1场安切试图把队医认为状态不佳的球员派上场，每次都是以糟糕
结局而告终。</P><P>From this season on he listens and the results are good! During inter-milan
rui costa didnt play becuz Milan lab predicted that rui costa was over his
peak ... and that kaka was peaking in that moment! result: kaka played a
superb game!</P><P>从这个赛季开始，他开始听从(队医生的建议)，结果良好。在对INTER的比赛里，RUI没
上场，因为米兰实验室预测RUI已过最佳状态，而KAKA那时正处在顶峰期；结果：KAKA场上表现出色。</P><P>Also players that have slept bad twice a week, wont be released either becuz
... in 100% of the cases, players that dont sleep well two times a week,
will fail on the field ... that is proven now by milan lab!</P><P>还有，如果球员一周之内有两次不能很好入眠，他就不那被派上场，因为米兰实验
室已经证明，如果球员一周之内有两次不能很好入眠，其场上表现必定不佳。</P><P>Milan lab is also the reason why players practise as much as possible alone
... every player has other fysical capacities, and everyone reacts otherwise
than other players! so enough with those players running in group around
the field ... milan only does group trainings for automatisms ... for group
spirit but not for individual condition!</P><P>因为米兰实验室，球员进行大量的个体单独训练。。。每个球员的个人体能构造不
同，每个球员的反应能力亦不同，所以，关于球员应该集体跑圈的陈词滥调。。。
米兰只有在做自然反应力。。。或者为了加强集体精神时，才做些小组集体训练。</P><P>
He also has an answer what makes fantastic football players so important!
From great football players we know that they feel the ball coming ... well
that's not true! great football players have better eyes, that reach more
degrees, so that's why the start earlier than other players on important
passes!</P><P>Meersseman医生回答了什么让好球员如此重要。从一些出色的球员那里，我们听他
们说自己有球感，这种说法实际是不确切的。那些出色的球员们的眼睛更好使，视
角更宽，因此比别人可以更早地传出那些重要的穿球。</P><P>Also the ballance by good players between the right side of the brain and
the left side of the brain is important! for rivaldo that's a very high
score, but by dida it's almost perfect!
同时一名出色的球员，他的左右脑子的平衡非常重要。RIVALDO在这方面的得分很高，
但是，DIDA则基本是完美无缺。</P><P>He also says that good football players have less condition becuz they have
more tallent! he wants to define the word 'tallent' and wants to try to
know how great football players are, fysically and mentally! and milan lab
is very important in that!</P><P>Meersseman医生还指出，优异的球员对其身体状态要求相对较低，因为他们有天赋；
他希望界定“天赋”的含义，真正从生理和心理方面解密这些优异的球员，米兰实
验室在这方面将起着重要的作用。</P><P>AC Milan wants to have a big advantage in milan lab, but after a few years
they want to commercialize it ... in 10 years a belgian team can test a
player in milan lab for a certain amount of money ...</P><P>AC MILAN将继续其米兰实验室的探索，但是，希望几年之后能将其成果商业化。。。
10年后，一支比利时球队可以在支付了一笔费用后，由米兰实验室对其某个队员进
行检测。</P><P>Last but not least he denies everything he has said in the past that juve
were on doping! he said that vs real madrid they were in top condition,
and there was no way that theywould have that same condition in the final!</P><P>最后但并非不重要，Meersseman医生反驳了过去说尤文用药的说法，他认为在尤文
对米皇马的比赛时，其体能达到最佳，(但)他们不可能在(冠军杯)决赛时保持如此
的体能。</P><P>---&gt; so that's why so many people were pissed off becuz of the first game
vs inter?</P><P>---&gt; that's why appiah probably never came to milan ... becuz his tests
werent good enough?</P><P>---&gt; and last but not least, the signing of redondo wasnt for nothing!</P>

小P爱卡卡

<P>如果作用不大，阿布也不会答应克雷斯波不要转会费，而只要米兰实验室的技术了~</P>

爱之奇迹

哇，详细呀，看来差距是肯定的拉

6162397

<P>呵呵，可惜性病医不好啊</P><P>看看阴扎鸡，别说什么脚伤，膝盖伤，就是泡妞过多，得了性病</P>